The Red Brick Times

  Sunday, January 27, 2008

I've posted about streaming Internet radio several times in the past. I'm still such a big fan that I recently completed a major upgrade to my computer speakers, located in the family room, and I'm now working on a (hopefully cheap) way to be able to play it through my regular stereo in the living room too. Anyway....

There are lots of players for streaming radio. Windows has Media Player, Apple has iTunes, and Winamp is very popular. I stumbled on a new one the other day that really peaked my interest. It's called Screamer Radio. This is a very bare bones player and bit immature (I actually had to manually fiddle with the script it uses to save favorites at one point). None of the bells and whistles the others have. But there's one thing it can do that the others can't. It can record. If a station you listen to is going to play a full CD, or something else you want to keep, now you can. Cool.
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  Friday, January 25, 2008


This is what I'm using for my desktop graphic these days. Sums my feelings up rather nicely.
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  • My brother sends me their calendar every year and I follow most their advice if I haven't already hit upon it on my own.

    Just remember; Optimists are usually disappointed while pessimists are often pleasantly surprised.
     
  • Hey! That's me!
     
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  Thursday, January 24, 2008



I thought images in postings overloaded bandwith? Anyway here it is. There are other versions if this isn't acceptable. As Groucho said, "If you don't like my principles I have others."
by A. O. (9) comments

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  • Russ,
    I'm having some issues with the photo gallery. Some pictures display others are just placeholders icons and some display once but if you navigate away from them and return you get the placeholder icon. Any thoughts?

    Also how do I post to gallery once I fix the first problem?
     
  • Tony,

    First you register as a Gallery user. If I remember correctly that should create a "top level" album for you which you have full control over (upload, sub-albums, etc.). (This is also covered in tRBT FAQ) After that just try to feel your way through it. Help screens are available.
     
  • Ok, I had a chance to re-learn and re=admin Gallery a bit this morning. Now when you register (link on top right - username/password) a top level gallery will definitely be created for you, though I think I may have to respond to an automatically created notification before this happens (anti-spammer feature). After that you have total control over that particular space.

    Yes, sometimes the thumbnails don't generate properly. Sorry. I was able to force them to generate, and choose multiple sizes, by selecting each photo then going into an available editing screen. You can resize, crop, etc., there.

    Gallery is pretty feature rich; a good thing because it gives you a very wide range of editing options for your photos, a bad thing because it adds a certain complexity to the environment. All in all it's amazingly powerful for a free app.

    Remember, I added this feature to tRBT before there were things like Flicker and the myriad of other photo sharing sites that exist today. I still prefer it because, as I've mentioned before, it runs on 7393 and doesn't have to rely on another sites availability or funky privacy policies. It has the potential to be a bandwidth hog but so far that hasn't been an issue.

    One more thing: you asked if graphics overloaded bandwidth when displayed in a regular post. You're right in that when they load every time someone views the page bandwidth usage goes up. At one time that was a bit of an issue. Not so much now. In the last several years hosting services have proliferated and have had to become much more competitive. One way they do this is to offer larger monthly usage for the same cost. At the moment we're well under the limits so no worry.
     
  • I replaced the original house photo with yours. It had to be resized which made it kind of dark so I lightened it up a bit. If you want to keep working on it the final size I need is 115x105.
     
  • I started an album of somewhat recent picts to bring life in RI and elsewhere to the great unwashed out there in the hinterlands. Check it out.
     
  • Nice! I enjoyed seeing those.
     
  • Is that Katko on the stoop?
     
  • It might be Creepy Chris who owned the bus. I thought it might also be either Skip or me, but he doesn't seem tall enough. What I'd like to know is who the couple kissing goodbye in the lower left is.
     
  • It's Emory Kappels (however you spell it) and the woman holding the cat in the bottom left corner is, I believe, Liz (McQuaid?) from the bus.
     
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  Wednesday, January 23, 2008


Looks like the 'Schoolhouse' survives. With Google Earth I found it.

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  • A few years(?) ago I posted an open invitation for whoever lives there now, should they have ever stumbled on tRBT, to contact me. No luck.
     
  • Russ, What's the protocol again for posting pictures? I know it involves ftp:// etc. I did a little Photoshopping on the Schoolhouse image, the Leaning Tower of Pisa routine was making me queasy.
     
  • In earlier versions of Blogger there wasn't an "add picture" button so doing that took a little more effort. You had to upload direct to 7393 using ftp then add the html code (different syntax than a link) yourself.

    Now Blogger has a button for that in the "New Post" environment. It's the fourth one from the right, next to the spellcheck. Give 'er a try.
     
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  Monday, January 21, 2008

There's a site called Lifehacker.com that I stumbled across in a fit of aimless browsing some time ago. I liked it for its computer tips and tricks, most of which were kind of high techy, so I never bothered posting a link to it. Today the NY Times mentioned a particular page there, Top 10 Telephone Tricks (I'm thinking of trying #1), which made me realize that Lifehacker has lots of general interest topics too. I thought you may like to kill a bit of time there. It's pretty cool.
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  • Here's something I found there that I'm dying to try: Make Your $60 Router a Super Router.
     
  • And um... yeah, the sidebar has changed. Anybody notice? It took me half the morning to do that. I'm loosing my chops.
     
  • did notice. nice. tugs at the memory and the heart.

    is the building still there?

    haven't been out that way in a LONG LONG time.
     
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  Wednesday, January 16, 2008

I've decided to learn how to bake. My goal is to eventually be able to bake bread, which I realize is aways down the road seeing I'm starting out not even sure that my oven works (it does). I went to a dollar store and bought a few pans (two bread - two muffin) and a "meatloaf" pan at Target. I have cornmeal, flour, baking soda, baking powder (what's the difference?) and sugar, both regular and dark brown. I figure I'm open for business. So far I've baked two loaves of cornbread. Easy I know, but my second loaf was more complicated. It had bacon in it! Yum! Today I moved on to banana bread. I had what I thought were way more than enough bananas, but not so. The recipe (found on the internet) called for 2-1/3 cups and I barely made it. I used a ricer (yes, I have a ricer) for them. What a mess. The recipe also said to "prepare" the pan. Prepare the pan? I looked it in the eye and said "get ready motherfucker". If that don't prepare it I don't know what will. It's in the oven now. No aroma yet but I have high hopes.
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  • Houston, we have aroma!

    Baking Lesson #1: In spite of your best efforts flour's gonna get all over everything. Don't fight it. Be the ball.
     
  • Success! Kingdoms have fallen over banana bread this good!

    Well, maybe not.

    Baking Lesson #2: Yeah, you're gonna use a lot of bowls and cups and such in the process. An amazing pile of dirty dishes will be created. Don't sweat it. Just put 'em with the others.
     
  • Dear Russ,
    While I appreciate the HEROIC dimension of your effort, I fear your solitary masculine lifestyle has distorted your perceptions.

    Baking is as close as any male can ever come "having one in the oven". Preparing the pan is coincidentally a surprising similar process. Rather than intimidation, try a more seductive approach.

    You will need a modicum of lubricant which is applied gently to the inner surfaces (take your time, enjoy the moment). Then the pan should be gently warmed, preferrably by a gentle massage. Lastly add your ingredients smoothly with just a bit of firm pressure.

    Preparation can be, should be every bit as pleasureable as consumption. (or is that consummation?).
     
  • Hmm...
    I always have been a "get ready motherfucker" kind of guy. Maybe this is why I have a "solitary masculine lifestyle" in the first place? Food (chuckle chuckle) for thought.

    BTW: My perception distortion comes from many years of carefully applied psychotropic substances. I prefer to think of it as "perception art", thank you very much, and consider myself quite avant-garde for having thought of it.
     
  • I fully understand. I have always seen you as avant-garde, the outer fringe advance sentry against a intrusive and, too often, unkind reality. Nous vous saluons sentinelle vaillante de la nuit!
     
  • Hey! I'm a valiant sentinel of the night! Who knew?
     
  • Russ,
    Bread is not so hard. Just know the parts and how they work and enjoy the journey.The Minimalist approach may be a good way to start.A video may help.

    Good Luck
     
  • Want to trade recipes? Meet you over the back fence and we can dish the dirt on everyone who doesn't agree with us.
     
  • In a few minutes I'll be munching on a bran muffin that I made myself. It has both wheat and oat bran in it (the recipe wasn't specific and you know me, "if it's worth doing, it's worth over doing") and blackstrap molasses. Came out great!

    And Tony, that minimalist bread you suggested is sitting in a pot, doing whatever it is bread does, even as we speak. It's supposed to sit for 18 hours, which will be exactly when I get back from dialysis today. I just took a peek at it. It hasn't risen that much but there are bubbles in it, which I guess is good. The plot (and dough) thickens.
     
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I got an email from Vera the other day. She runs Oasis Animal Shelter in Oberlin, Niki's alma mater. It's a great shelter and Vera busts her butt keeping the place open.
If you guys ever need to "google" anything on the internet, please go to goodsearch.com. It will ask you what non profit organization do you want to donate to, and type in Oasis Animal Shelter, then click on verify. It will come back that its a good name. Then you can search whatever you need to. With every good search, they pay the animal shelters and it does not cost you anything.
Thanks!!
I tried "Goodpasture's Syndrome" there as it was a search whose results I knew a lot about and could compare with other engines. Worked great! Please give Vera (and the pups!) a hand by putting a link next to your one for Google and give 'er a try.
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  Saturday, January 12, 2008

Some of you may remember my stepbrother Brad. He came here and stayed with me occasionally over the years and even made several solstices. A few days ago I received this email:
This is Paul Lxxxxx, Brad's high school friend, I am at Brad's house. Brad is in Elkhart General in Critical Care Unit. It appears Brad took a fall in the house on Jan 3 and was suffering from the effects of liver and kidney failure due to the years of alcohol abuse. Brad needs everyone's prayers and support to get through this and gets his life back on track for him and Seth's sake. You can call me on my cell phone 419-xxx-xxxx and I can tell you more and keep you updated as to his condition.
Paul figured out who I was by going through Brads' computer, hence the email. I called. After not being able to contact Brad in Indiana this Paul guy, together with other of Brads' friends in Mansfiield, became so concerned about his welfare that they asked the local sheriff to investigate. Brad was found passed out in his house, a cut on his head from a fall, blood everywhere. He was rushed to the local hospital and has been in intensive care since. His liver is gone, his kidneys failing and he cannot breath without assistance. He's minimally responsive to what's going on around him. The people I've spoken with at the hospital are not optimistic about his chances.

Brad had had a serious alcohol related traffic accident some years ago. I went there then and ended up pretty satisfied that that incident shocked him into getting a grip on what was happening with his life. We mostly stayed in touch through emails but he did call several times through my last hospital stay. He sounded fine. Paul said he was good at sounding fine when he wanted to. I had no idea what was really happening. I feel so guilty. His Mansfield friends were obviously much better friends to him than I was. I mean, we never lived together, I was long gone by the time my father and his mother married. But still. He must have felt so alone.
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  • I met Brad, who knows when? I'm sorry to hear of his fate. E. Rigbe is not the only one. I, too, feel isolated at times. I miss the solstice celebrations. I have my routine and don't get out much. Email and the occasional blog now and then help.
     
  • I am regretful of my own neglects and omissions over the years. I can only be what I am, regardless of how whacked everyone else sees me. Russ, I think you are OK and doing fine, and accept you as I find you.
     
  • Yesterday Brad was to be seen by one final specialist. If he concurred with the other doctors then the family (an uncle) had decided to remove life support. Brad wasn't expected to survive.

    I wasn't to happy about this but had no say. The uncle won't let the hospital update me anymore so I got this info second hand from Paul. Normally I would have been there days ago. Good luck with trying to keep me out of the decision loop then motherfuckers. But no, I can't do things like that anymore. Travel I mean. It's very hard getting used to that.

    But!!! Paul called with some good news. Brad's liver has started responding, enough to noticeably lower his ammonia level. He actually came to a bit. He's still on a respirator (and trying to pull it out) but recognizes people. Whew.
     
  • Andy is on track regarding accepting people for who they are. It is not in our power to change anyone but ourselves. Russ, don't beat yourself up over "not being there". You said it yourself, Brad seemed fine when last you spoke. If he had wanted something from you, he would have asked.
    I have learned, from working with many clients with serious problems, that it takes a level of respect for people to allow them to make their own decisions. Even if you think you know better.
     
  • Paul called yesterday early evening to tell me that the small signs of a possible upturn had reversed themselves. With the doctors agreement, and feeling they would be acting as Brad would wish, he, another old Mansfield friend, and the uncle instructed the hospital to not re-install the ventilator or use any other "heroic measures" at this point. Brad died at 8:30 last night.
     
  • My condolences.
     
  • Icing on the cake.

    Brad's funeral was last Saturday in Indiana. With dialysis and all there was no way I could go. He's being buried in Mansfield this Saturday in the same plot my father and his mother are in, so the plan was to do that late enough in the afternoon that I could do dialysis (7:00am-noon) and still make it down there in time. I even talked to the dialysis people about starting a bit earlier to give me some wiggle room. No go. The cemetery refuses to allow anything to begin after 11:00am.

    I don't know what to do now. I asked a dialysis nurse I know about skipping that session. She said I'd live but, because it'd be a five day skip, probably be one sick motherfucker by my next scheduled time. Worst thing is that this may be the only chance I'll ever have to see Brad's son Seth again. I suppose I'll never be a part of his life but I'd like him to know I exist, that he has a step-uncle, for whatever that's worth.

    Fuck. It's just one thing after another. I'm starting to get beat down.
     
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  Saturday, January 05, 2008

I've been developing web pages for a few years. I am self-taught. There are major gaps in my training and understanding. Lately, I’ve noticed the cute little graphics that accompany the URL in the browser address bar. Everyone seems to have one anymore. The RBT has that appropriate red brick symbol. Blogger has the weird B. I want to put one of those on FOWL.org, too. Where do they come from and how do I get one?

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  • That little graphic is called a 'favicon' if my searching serves me correctly. It is a file with a .ico extension. OK that's a start. Next, how do I get one and how do I use it?
     
  • Read this.

    Even they say it's not necessary I also include the "link rel=" call out to make sure all browsers pick it up.
     
  • Just went to fowl.org. So where's the spiffy new icon? Trouble in b(l)og land?
     
  • Even good coding won't work everywhere. IE 6 doesn't show the favicon. Microsoft ... ain't they just a gem !
     
  • Thanks for the encouragement. First, I cruised through all the image editing software I own, including Photoshop CS2 without finding a program or utility that produces an image with the .ico extension. Then I started searching on the web for .ico utilities. Damn, its just a little 16X16 pixel image. So then I started comparing programs. Some of them produce 32X32 favicons. Now I'm confused all over again. So, before I starting downloading software from the web I ran into issues with sandboxie. I need to learn how to put a condom on before I start messing with this little 16X16 graphic editing program. Well, sorry, I like full contact browsing. I must have gotten tired or had to eat or get up and go to work or something. Can anyone recommend a good safe source for an icon editing utility? Wow, then I can be creative with these few pixels, post and enjoy. I wonder why there are so few volunteers for this tedious, technical work? Any volunteers out there who would like to show off their graphic design prowess?
     
  • I took a quick look and went ahead and downloaded this one: Easy Icon Maker. It seems to be a 15 day trial type of program but hey, after all, we're just talking 16x16 pixels here. How long could that take?

    When it first executed it presented a 32x32 grid. I quickly figured how to go 16x16, which is what I would recommend you stick to. Whatever.
     
  • Hey, you got one! Cool!
     
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Dear RBT'ers,

Y'know, as blogs go (and much to my surprise) tRBT has been around for awhile. We started up more or less on a whim way back when Blogger first became available. At that time Blogger provided the only available and easy-to-use interface that could be configured in a variety of ways and with a variety of hosting solutions. Way cool.

Well, as the years went by blogging hit the big time and many a coder stayed up all night. There are now lots of free, well supported, blog/content packages available which, once installed, run solely on the supported web server. This is a good thing because, in general, it's always nice to simplify. With Blogger we have multiple sites (Blogger/Google/7393.org) all in the mix making it less possible to do certain creative things and (sometimes) harder to debug. That can change. 7393 can run everything.

Many's the time I've thought of dumping Blogger in favor of another system but never did. That would have meant a big time commitment to install/config an alternative plus everyone would have to re-register and learn a new GUI for posting. I have the time now but still fear too many members would say "fuck it" and just lurk which, alas, too many do already. Tell you the truth, if I ever see multiple months with just me posting (and maybe Andy, Hi Andy!) I'll be tempted to drop the whole thing. I never meant this as a personal blog.

Anyway.... I'm game to give it a whack. Is it worth looking into? What'd ya think? It's possible to run one as a temporary demo if we want to take a closer look....

Here are some alternative content systems, all of which would work for us:

Easy ones:
Wordpress
b2evolution
Nucleus CMS

Others:
MovableType
Drupal

If you're at all interested please take a look at examples of each and chime on in! Your two cents accepted here.
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  • I glanced at the different blog programs which they want to call content management systems (CMS). I'm not much of a blogger (newsflash!) so I can't really help evaluate them. What do you think the advantage would be if you switched to Moveable Type? or Drupal? Would it be easier for members to post pictures? add RSS from some left wing rag? write a collaborative book? Would anybody want to do that?
     
  • The immediate advantage is that we'd only be dependent on one site (7393.org). As things exist now if Blogger or Google or 7393 has problems tRBT is affected. Simple is (generally) better.

    Yes, we can do anything we want with pretty much all of the linked CMS's. A special page with group RSS feeds, an RSS feed from tRBT (kind of overkill but whatever), a group calendar, a book review/comment page, photo insertion (Gallery was my attempt but doesn't seem to be used much)... If users want it (and promise to use it) I'll figure a way to put it in and make it colaboritave.
     
  • I would be supportive of anything that makes it easier to post links and photos. Blogging for Dummies would be helpful. My skill level is low in this regard and I suspect others are in the same boat.
    I took a look at all of the sites and have to admit that I am still intimidated by the language. I am in favor of anything that makes communication easier. I think you would see more participation.
    Be careful what you wish for - you could be overloaded with the pent up contributions of former lurkers.
     
  • Criteria #1: Ease of posting.

    I didn't get deep into the demos on the various CMS's I linked to but ease of post/link/upload would certainly be of importance.

    More?
     
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  Thursday, January 03, 2008

US passports include ID chips hidden inside the cover. The chip includes a "biometric" identifier that the US Electronic Passport FAQs identify as:
"A biometric or biometric identifier is a measurable physical or behavioral characteristic of an individual, which can be used to verify the identity of that individual or to compare against other entries when stored in a database. Biometrics include face recognition, fingerprints, and iris scans. The U.S. Electronic Passport uses the digital image of the passport photograph as the biometric identifier that is used with face recognition technology to verify the identity of the passport bearer. For more information on biometrics, please consult www.biometricscatalog.org."

Looking deeper, the Homeland Security Department's Privacy Technology Implementation Guide (PTIG) provides program developers and managers with steps to follow when implementing systems that use Personally Identifiable Information (PII). As this document says:
"The PTIG is not prescriptive. The guide does not mandate the development of any new system requirements."
"The PTIG is descriptive. It combines the elements of privacy protection that appear in disparate privacy compliance assessments, documents, and administrative policies and procedures into a single document, contextualized for managers and developers of operational systems."

Some key PTIG acronyms that keep popping up include:
PII - Personally Identifiable Information (what makes you "you"?)
PTA - Privacy Threshold Analysis (does this use cross privacy boundaries? Pg 21/36)
PIA - Privacy Impact Assessment (how far over the line is it? Pg 21/36)
SORN - System of Records Notice (project records of privacy use Pg 22/36)
SSN - Social Security Number (still heavily used by many US agencies and financial institutions)

Several references are to the Privacy Act of 1974, which is the legal basis for all things private in the US Government. It incorporates a bunch of holes that permit grandfathered use of info you would probably prefer to keep private.
For example:
"SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER USAGE

Section 7 of the Privacy Act (found at 5 U.S.C. § 552a note (Disclosure of Social Security Number)) provides that:

'It shall be unlawful for any Federal, State or local government agency to deny to any individual any right, benefit, or privilege provided by law because of such individual's refusal to disclose his social security account number.' Sec. 7(a)(1).

Comment:

Note that although this provision applies beyond federal agencies, it does not apply to: (1) any disclosure which is required by federal statute; or (2) any disclosure of a social security number to any federal, state, or local agency maintaining a system of records in existence and operating before January 1, 1975, if such disclosure was required under statute or regulation adopted prior to such date to verify the identity of an individual. See Sec. 7(a)(2)(A)-(B)."


List of things considered "sensitive" (PTIG page 14 of 36):
"The following is a partial list of privacy sensitive technologies - technologies that specifically raise privacy issues either through the way the technology processes PII or through the nature of the PII used by the technology.13
• Biometrics. Biometric technologies involve the direct use of an individual’s physical characteristics and seek to establish the most reliable link between a person and information. The intimate nature and potentially permanent direct association of biometric information with an individual raises privacy concerns regarding risk to the individual from data loss and surveillance (involuntary biometric collection at a distance).
• Geospatial. Geospatial technologies involve the use of geographic information. Since every object and every individual is located somewhere, geospatial technologies can serve as a universal link between all other information, objects, events, and individuals. The ability to associate location with an individual over time along with all other objects and events associated with the same location raises privacy concerns related to tracking and profiling.
• RFID/Wireless. Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) and other wireless technologies involve the transmission of information through the open air. When these technologies are used to transfer PII or are associated in any way with individuals, these technologies raise privacy issues regarding surveillance and involuntary identification. The broadcast nature of the transmission and the association of that data traffic with an individual raises privacy concerns that should be addressed early in the project life cycle.
• Datamining. Datamining technologies generally involve the combination of large volumes of data of various types from many different sources. The potential to connect highly diverse information outside the context of the original collection and to predict characteristics of individuals raises privacy concerns related to data quality and notice. Privacy compliance requirements apply to all uses of PII within a datamining system, which means that the each use of each field of PII should be articulated to facilitate the appropriate level of analysis required to ensure privacy compliance."

Care and Feeding of your chip-containing ID device:
Do not bend, strike with hammer, or put in microwave

Synopsis: There is not one authority for determining what is private and what is not. Different agencies or groups have their own rules and interpretations to use as they see fitting the regulations. Analyzing use of privacy data use will result in additional promulgation of private information. The Homeland Security list of technologies considered privacy-"sensitive" indicates that these are currently available for use in government circles.

Face recognition video technology is not highlighted, but has been reported to be of limited use in Las Vegas, Nevada. Maybe they just want us to think that.
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  • BTW - the technology used for radio frequency identification (RFID) chips is the same as car manufacturers use in their ignition keys to prevent an "unathorized" key from starting your car.

    There is a little glass capsule in the plastic part of the key. It has a microchip and there is a copper wire wound around and around the inside of the capsule to act as an antenna. When you turn the ignition key, a ring antenna around the lock opening sends out a small pulse of radio frequency energy. The capsule uses that to power the chip which responds with an encrypted answering pulse that includes a digital number. The ring antenna around the lock gets that and sends it to the computer. The computer compares with the right code in memory, and if correct, tells the engine computer to turn on the spark and fuel injectors.

    The vehicle starter will crank until it burns out, but the engine will not run until the secret code unlocks the computer.

    The chip in the passport and other documents will work the same way, with pulses of radio frequency energy, and a digital code response.
     
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  Wednesday, January 02, 2008

Fixed a problem today that made certain early months from tRBT archives hang after loading the first post. Should be ok now. Also took a look at that pesky little "B" button that has suddenly started appearing in the comment bylines. I was able to trace it to an internal code change Blogger made to resolve a completely different issue some people were having. While it seems to have resolved their issue it's goofed us up a bit and, outside of notifying Blogger (which I've done, to no avail so far) there's nothing I can do about it. Sorry. Let me know if you notice anything else.
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  • John is on the case with some upcoming custom java code! I pity that pesky "B" button.

    BTW: Just in case John decides to get really creative and you own Google stock dump it now cause there ain't no tellin' baby.
     
  • Pish tosh on Google. Impact is smacking around the entire internet just for fun !!!
     
  • John 1 - "B" button 0

    John, You da Man!
     
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  Tuesday, January 01, 2008

A handy list of Bush administration officials who have left office in scandal. Now updated to include 2007! Bushies on Parade!
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Happy New Year all.
by A. O. (2) comments

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  • As far as I'm concerned 2007 can pucker right up and kiss my ass.
     
  • Yeah, That's why we're really hoping for a better one in '08.

    Peace
     
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